Socialistic Capitalism & Healthcare

The arguments over social healthcare in the United States have been raging for several years, and they will continue on even with Obamacare being passed. However most of the arguments coming from the conservative right revolve around this idea that the free market can solve all issues. This is historically inaccurate during medieval times the Vatican profited greatly and more recently we had the robber barrons; the pure capitalism experiment has been tried and failed. The flavor of capitalism that the United States has is not a pure capitalism instead it is a capitalism built on a socialist state. This particular unique flavor of political system is what let the USA and other first world countries sky rocket in the past 200 years.

Roads, fire, police, hydro, and electricity are all controlled and funded by social means through taxes. Not only does this benefit massive companies like Wal-Mart but it also helps the small entrepreneur easily enter the market at a relatively low cost compared to if they had to build their own infrastructure or rely on other private companies to build it for them. The argument may come back to quality but just as you do not need a Ferrari to get from point A to B, you do not need the highest quality services for everything either.

Ron Paul has made the claim that healthcare is not a right, however, according to the USA’s declaration of independence this is not true.

“That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” – Declaration of Independence

Now in my universe health is a synonym for life because when someone’s health fails, their life ends. If you do not take care of your health then you will die faster. However there are a large group of Americans who believe you should have to pay for your right to live. I involuntarily received a condition called Ulcerative Colitis, it doesn’t have a cure and the cause is unknown. Luckily I live in a country that does not penalize people for things they did not control because if I lived in the USA I would of now fallen under the pre-existing condition category and would of had a very hard time getting insurance. My week long stay at a hospital would of wiped out my savings.

Economic implications aside, human health should be a right. As humans have evolved our scope of rights has increased and that is not a bad thing. Clean running water never used to be right, or education, or security. If we can’t afford universal healthcare the answer is not the private sector, which has already proven it will do everything in its power to let people die, but rather figuring out ways to make it cheaper. Cure more diseases and cure aging/death are all possible and viable options. However, what is definitely not an option is allowing people to be treated in animal stalls.

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4 thoughts on “Socialistic Capitalism & Healthcare

  1. Justin Oliver

    the pure capitalism experiment has been tried and failed.

    I’d agree that the current health care system is broken. I blame it on too much government control, most of which is used to protect big businesses from competition.

    The biggest complaint with health care in the United States is with the cost of it. The ironic thing is that government intervention began in the health care industry almost 100 years ago, when industry lobbyists and corporate insurance businesses were concerned that health care insurance was too inexpensive, according to Roderick Long.

    Ron Paul has made the claim that healthcare is not a right, however, according to the USA’s declaration of independence this is not true.

    What evidence is that rights exist? Does a person’s rights include infringing upon the rights of others?

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    1. Jonathan Wagner Post author

      Personally I believe socialistic medicine can and does work, it does have increasing economic cost but if properly done the GDP growth should outpace it since preventative care can keep people working for longer and keeps people from getting to critical states which ends up cost the government more.

      Currently the US spends more per GDP then any other country and provides less coverage. I have heard some what convincing arguments that socialist countries can actually get away with it because they are piggy backing on the research of the US. I would be convinced of this except for the fact that a lot of the biggest gains in medicine don’t come from the private sector, they come from government funded research grants to schools.

      Now obviously the economics of healthcare is one issue. As for rights, rights are a human construct and enforced by humans, they certainly are not a guarantee. I can say everyone should have the right to clean water, this doesn’t make it so, it is up to communities or social involvement through government to make it occur.

      The idea that if everyone has coverage of healthcare your infringing on the freedom of others to buy healthcare is a joke. Have you ever heard anyone fighting for their right to not have water flow from their faucets? This nazi/socialist dialogue that is being utilized or implied by some conservatives plays on the ignorance of the american people as they take their socialized built roads to work. The choice of not having water is so ridiculous no one complains about it. However when it comes to health insurance you have a lot of very wealthy and powerful non-empathetic corporations literally controlling the fates of people’s lives and people are defending them because of a dialogue comparing healthcare to every other commercial activity except it is not like any other commercial activity because it negatively affects people.

      ‘Freedom’ actually means the ability to do anything you want as long as it doesn’t hurt others. You don’t technically have the freedom to murder someone because attempted murder is actually a crime. Insurance companies hurt people, regularly. The idea of having human health linked with private institutions whose main goal is making money is draconian and frankly evil in my opinion.

      Let me give a hyperbolic example. Imagine a pill is developed that can make humans hyper intelligent, it is insanely cheap, the government could mass produce it easily. Instead they let a private corporation hold on to it and only the richest people can obtain it. Suddenly only the 1% are getting into schools and accomplishing everything, do you think this would be right?

      There are certain things that should not be left in the hands of private corporations and health is one of them.

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      1. Justin Oliver

        To be clear, I’m not saying that a genuinely socialized model is necessarily less attractive compared to our existing health care system. Anti-capitalist Kevin Carson makes that point in his article “Honest Statism Beats a Fake ‘Free Market’ Every Time.”

        As for rights, you seem to be saying they are just people’s opinions. Is that about right?

        I would be convinced of this except for the fact that a lot of the biggest gains in medicine don’t come from the private sector, they come from government funded research grants to schools.

        Like I said, I agree that we don’t have a genuinely free-market health care system.

        The idea that if everyone has coverage of healthcare your infringing on the freedom of others to buy healthcare is a joke.

        Agreed. It depends on the means by which the resources for funding health care insurance are acquired.

        Instead they let a private corporation hold on to it and only the richest people can obtain it. Suddenly only the 1% are getting into schools and accomplishing everything, do you think this would be right?

        Well, I don’t support intellectual property laws, so.

        There are certain things that should not be left in the hands of private corporations and health is one of them.

        Well, maybe. But government-run health care is not the only alternative to corporate-run health care. The article I mentioned in my original comment made that point.

        That’s about all I have to share. Take care!

      2. Jonathan Wagner Post author

        Everyone has the right to attempt anything that is an undeniable right and a fact of nature. What you can actually accomplish and its accompanying consequences or what gets provided to you is a product of majority opinion. Majority opinion has changed as humans have evolved.

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